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Weiser Lock Powerbolt 1000

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Printed Date: 27 March 2017 at 11:17pm


Topic: Weiser Lock Powerbolt 1000
Posted By: spismund
Subject: Weiser Lock Powerbolt 1000
Date Posted: 25 March 2009 at 6:24am
I am about to order the parts for the stand-alone RFID
enabled front door access. However I saw somewhere in
this forum, that some of you have had issues regarding
the Weiser Lock Powerbolt 1000? I think it was lacking
OPEN and CLOSE switch contacts on the controle circuit
board?
I can't afford throwing $200 after a deadbolt which I
can't use, so can you please tell me which model is
working for sure?
Is there also a place where I can order it from here in
Europe?

thank you in advance



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Posted By: amal
Date Posted: 25 March 2009 at 7:16pm
Yeah, I have seen a model that does not have the open/close buttons. The box says it's the same model, Kwikset PowerBolt 1000 / Weiser Lock Powerbolt 1000 (same thing)... but the open/close contact pads are missing. You might ask the storefront to take the battery cover off and see if there is anything printed on the circuit board that says "open" (maybe send a picture/scan from the book). They might be willing to check for you.

If someone is willing to ship me a powerbolt of this type, I'll take a crack at hacking it. But, the easiest way would probably be to momentarily switch a relay on to directly power the motor and retract the deadbolt using the powerbolt's own battery bank.


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Posted By: spismund
Date Posted: 26 March 2009 at 1:24pm
Thank you Amal

I've taken a shot and ordered one from the amazon market place (it really is a PAIN to get suppliers overseas to ship to Europe)

If it is the bad version then I hopefully will get some help to get it to work anyway.


Posted By: amal
Date Posted: 26 March 2009 at 3:13pm

cool. if it turns out you have "the bad model" without the open pads, then the only difference would be some code changes to the STAMP to better time the reed relay, maybe add some diodes, and make some wiring changes to power the powerbolt's bolt motor directly from the powerbolt's battery box.



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Posted By: spismund
Date Posted: 11 April 2009 at 5:17am
Got my Powerbolt 1000 today. It does not have the OPEN and CLOSE contacts.
How shall I wire it now? Do you need some pictures of the circuitboard?


Posted By: spismund
Date Posted: 12 April 2009 at 7:30am
Can anyone please post some pictures of the front & back of the circuit board with the OPEN and CLOSE contacts? Is there a way to trace them? I need to know if the OPEN & CLOSE contacts perhaps still are in the design.

I also found this forum ( http://discuss.extremetech.com/forums/2/1004310622/ShowThrea d.aspx http://discuss.extremetech.com/forums/2/1004310622/ShowThre%20ad.aspx - ), where " http://discuss.extremetech.com/members/ziffster.aspx - ziffster " talks about the very same issue. He talkes about using the direction jumper? Is this a good solution?




Posted By: amal
Date Posted: 12 April 2009 at 11:43pm
That actually looks like a very intelligent method to use. You'd have to wire up a SPDT (or a more common http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DPDT - DPDT ) relay to the direction pins and another reed relay to the lock pin. Then update the code to flip the direction relay, wait a few milliseconds, hit the lock pin relay for a few milliseconds, then drop the direction pins back to the original configuration.

I really must give proper credit; here is a section from the original post from the other forum:

Originally posted by ziffster ziffster wrote:

The original Powerbolt came in a version with open and close pushbuttons for the indoor side. The version with buttons was later eliminated, but the pads on the circuit board for them remained. I just bought one (October 2007), and the circuit board has been changed. The OPEN and CLOSE pads are gone. Fortunately, I found another way to lock/unlock the lock that should have occured to me before doing some reverse engineering of the lock.

Locking is easy, just short the two pins together that go to the 'Lock' button on the keypad. Unlocking, it seems, would require entering the code using the same technique, but there is an easier way. 

The lock is designed to go in the right or left side of a door, depending on which way the door opens. There is a Direction jumper to reverse the direction of the motor for locking and unlocking. If the lock is installed on the left side, clockwise unlocks and counterclockwise unlocks. If the lock is installed on the right, the directions are reversed. The 'Direction' jumper on the circuit board reverses these.







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Posted By: mikey11
Date Posted: 07 July 2009 at 8:42am
I implemented the new powerbolt 1000 weiser with the phidgets usb rfid board successfully. I only had to add a single transistor and two resistors.

Using the two outputs from the phidgets board, the door direction jumper, and the lock button contacts (I had to disable the outside number panel), it can easily be done.

I used a resistor plus transistor to trigger the lock button, and tied a resistor to ground to provide the logic for the door direction jumper.

Check it out, www.mikethemike.wordpress.com

I did not use Amal's code because it was not easily updated to the version of vb express I am using(2008), and phidgets also has a new library with some fancy functions. I used the new phidgets (2.1 I think).

I've been rewriting the sample program for vbexpress provided by phidgets called rfid-simple to act as access control.


I've successfully implemented a keylist textfile which is read, and then any key swiped will be compared to the contents of the file.

I'm planning on adding quite a bit more to the keylist file to enable more interesting functions, like only allowing my family members access to my house between 10am and 10pm, taking webcam shots on entry, providing other functions for people who don't need to enter the house, having a key chained near the reader for random people who want to enter when I'm not there to be granted access via cellphone after having the webcam shot sent to my phone.... It can be a whole lot more than your average door.


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Date Posted: 10 May 2010 at 5:25am
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Posted By: dozie
Date Posted: 18 March 2011 at 11:38am
please i also have the same problem mentioned here, i have already bought the kwikset powerbolt 1000 and it does not have the open and close switches. I am from nigeria and there is no way i can start to order a new one, is there anyone who has solved this problem please i will like to now how.
i will appreciate if it can be very detailed (i.e step by step like how it was written by the author of RFID toys


Posted By: kmacvittie
Date Posted: 01 June 2011 at 6:45am
Forum,

Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn't this setup do the same thing as the "car door unlock" system? (i.e. electrically push a button by soldiering to the points on the button). In this case could you use this same setup, but replace the Powerlock with a simple electric door latch?

I apologize for my ignorance, I am new to this...




Posted By: amal
Date Posted: 01 June 2011 at 10:58am
Yep, you could. However, there are two reasons people don't do electronic door latches (electronic strikes) in their homes. 1) Most people don't want to put electronic strikes in their home door frames, and 2) most people don't trust their "home grade" door knobs, that's why they upgrade their door security to deadbolts, which electronic strikes don't work with (they only work with spring loaded latches).


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Posted By: kmacvittie
Date Posted: 01 June 2011 at 11:01am
Amal,

Thank you for the quick response. I feel like the strength of a "home grade" door knob falls under the same rule as on the previous page "if they want to get in, they will". Is there a severe difference between the electric strike and the deadbolt? 

thanks


Posted By: amal
Date Posted: 01 June 2011 at 11:07am
It's not the strike that is the security differential, it's the strength and vulnerability of the spring-loaded latch itself. While I agree "if they want to get in, they will", however it is a far easier task to overcome a spring-loaded latch than it is a deadbolt. Also, most people already have doors with deadbolts in, and installation of this system is far easier than routing out a giant hole for and wiring up an electric strike. Just remove the existing deadbolt and install this one. Easy.

There are also those who rent, and cannot cut into their door frames. This project is perfect for those kinds of situations because it does not alter door or frame.


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Posted By: kmacvittie
Date Posted: 01 June 2011 at 11:10am
thank you very much!! I did not mean to attack your project, I was just comparing the cost difference between the electric strike and the electric deadbolt. thanks again!!



Posted By: amal
Date Posted: 01 June 2011 at 11:15am
No problem. Didn't feel attacked, just wanted to make it clear why the project was built the way it was. I myself had an electronic strike installed at my office. Works really well. For my home though, I couldn't find a decent door latch that was as secure as a deadbolt but didn't look like an ugly commercial door latch, so I went with an updated version of the deadbolt project (found in the http://www.trossenrobotics.com/p/RFID-experimenters-kit.aspx?af=v9u2jfa - RedBee kit ).


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Posted By: kmacvittie
Date Posted: 01 June 2011 at 11:19am
aaaand that was my next question!! thanks again haha


Posted By: kmacvittie
Date Posted: 01 June 2011 at 11:24am
new question. If i wanted the ability to be able to just push my door open after scanning my hand, then i could use both a deadbolt and a strike right? that way i'd have the security of the deadbolt with the convenience of the strike?

thanks again


Posted By: amal
Date Posted: 01 June 2011 at 11:27am
exactly. if memory serves, the book project shows exactly that; using both the deadbolt and a strike at the same time... but i also recall that confused a ton of people and i got a ton of people commenting that the strike was redundant, not realizing that the strike was meant for the door latch (even though it's spelled out in the book).

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Posted By: kmacvittie
Date Posted: 01 June 2011 at 11:28am
good thing i got the book then!! haha i just havent read it in a while i guess, i forgot that detail... thanks again


Posted By: amal
Date Posted: 01 June 2011 at 11:29am
heh, no prob :)

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